Re: Planet X: Viewing WHEN?
Good question, though I figure you made a typing mistake when you say
the sun rises at 4:13 am, especially if you get up at 4:30 and you do
NOT see the sun! :) It's currently rising around 5:17am for your area.
As for darkness, you START losing that at around 2:59am, or basically
3:00am. So after 3am, you skies will start getting brighter. If your
mythical Planet X did exist, it would not be visible (unless it's as
bright as Venus or something) since it would rise at around 4:38am.
And I wouldn't use M31 as a comparison since it is very large and
has it's brightness spread out over a large area. If you can provide
the angular size and magnitude of your mythical object, I'm sure there
are some out here that could calculate when such an object would
be visible for your area.
Given past Zetan comments on their science, they should know all of
this already.
Jeff
In article <2a1fff53.0206200459.3cfc6d53@posting.google.com>, zetatalk@zetatalk.com (Nancy Lieder) writes:
> I've created a web page to explain to newbies unfamiliar with the
> concept of "in the sun" why they cannot see Planet X NOW. I did up a
> chart showing dates and times too.
> http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03v.htm
>
> My question to astronomers here is how MUCH before dawn, time wise,
> the sky is polluted so viewing is not possible. For instance, the Sun
> is rising here in Wisconsin at 4:13 AM. I get up at 4:30 and could
> pretty well go outside and read a newspaper at that time. NO stars
> were visible in the sky at that time, and we're not talking a star
> here, we're talking Planet X being diffuse, a reddish blur, etc. Put
> another way, at what point would M31 be visible, or not visible,
> predawn? Though magnitude 3.7 one can BARELY see it, no scope
> required, as it is diffuse. Could you see M31 the hour before dawn?
> Or is deep night required?
>
> Here's what I said on that page for amateur amateurs:
>
> .....................................
>
> The inbound Planet X (aka Nibiru, 12th Planet, Marduk, etc.) cannot be
> viewed from Earth during part of the Earth's orbit around the Sun, as
> those gazing in that direction must look past the sun, during
> daylight, and light polution virtually eliminates the ability to even
> see bright stars. This is termed being "in the sun" by astronomers.
> Where ZetaTalk has stated that amateurs will be able to see it with
> their scopes by mid-year 2002, the spot in the sky to be viewed will
> only be in darkness the hour before dawn at best by very late summer
> to very early Fall, but by December will be visible for most of the
> night.
>
> The chart below was garnered from dates, times, and cities plugged
> into SkyMap, and the Coordinates spot Located between the end of
> Orions bow and a flank of the Taurus bull, and from the NOAA web site
> which provides sunrise time by city and date. The times posted assume
> no daylight savings time adjustments. Assume the hour before dawn to
> have light pollution affecting something viewed on the horizon where
> the Sun will be rising.
>
> For CAPETOWN, South Africa
> Date
> Start Viewing
> End Viewing
> Sunrise
> Viewing
> Jun 15, 2002
> 6:30 AM
> 4:30 PM
> 7:50 AM
> (Not Possible)
> Jul 15, 2002
> 4:30 AM
> 2:30 PM
> 7:50 AM
> Before Dawn
> Aug 15, 2002
> 2:30 AM
> 12:30 PM
> 7:26 AM
> Before Dawn
> Sep 15, 2002
> 0:30 AM
> 10:30 AM
> 6:46 AM
> Midnight - Dawn
> Dec 15, 2002
> 6:30 PM
> 4:30 AM
> 5:30 AM
> All Night
>
> For VANCOUVER, Canada
> Date
> Start Viewing
> End Viewing
> Sunrise
> Day/Night
> Jun 15, 2002
> 5:00 AM
> 5:00 PM
> 4:11 AM
> (Not Possible)
> Jul 15, 2002
> 3:00 AM
> 3:00 PM
> 4:27 AM
> Limited
> Aug 15, 2002
> 1:00 AM
> 1:00 PM
> 5:05 AM
> Before >Dawn
> Sep 15, 2002
> 11:00 PM
> 11:00 AM
> 5:47 AM
> Midnight - Dawn
> Dec 15, 2002
> 5:00 PM
> 5:00 AM
> 7:51 AM
> All Night
