Re: Shepherds of the Sheep of sci.astro

In <FSjB6.575$lO4.155933@wagner.videotron.net> Greg Neill writes:
> Are you still obtaining all of your technical information and
> accepting it without question from the Zeta aliens in your head?

Regardless of WHERE the information comes from, there is SOMETHING out
there at the coordinates given.  The last time there was a debate, I was
challenged to provide proof.  Where was this inbound planet - Planet X
or the 12th Planet or whatever called?  Now it's visible by
observatories.  Do you think a woman who can't handle math and doesn't
even know what end of a scope to look into if she owned one could just
come up with these coordinates, which are MOVING?  To the 5th and 6th
decimal place?  Pretty good toss of the dart at the board, I'd say.
Perhaps I'm a government agent, tasked with putting out a message that
could cause panic in such as way that it is deniable.  ZetaTalk is
deniable.  A casual comment by NASA, along with a Hubble image, that the
planet will be in deep doo-doo in 2003 and there's is nothing the powers
that be can do about is something they would hesitate to do.

So what is it, folks are seeing, at those coordinates?  If it's a comet,
then please compute the ephemeris and we'll see if it moves according to
that or what the Zetas have stated will be the path.  Should be
interesting.  If a brown dwarf, then it's really close as it is MOVING,
not stationary. Should be even more interesting.  Re what the Zetas say
is the distance, please see the Distance from Earth piece at
http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s100.htm
where a diagram is provided.  A quote from that page:

    The 12th Planet is circling on a long elliptical orbit
    around the sun and its dead companion which lies at
    a distance some 18.724 times the length from the sun
    to Pluto. It is not a long distance to be traveled in
    3,657 years, especially considering that it transverses
    the solar system in 3 short months! Clearly, the uptick
    in speed is considerable, and the rate of speed as it
    floats from one binary sun to the other is sedate in
    comparison. Thus, when the passage is due in 2003,
    there is an exponential increase in speed during the
    last years, and this speeding up has already started.
    To compute the distance from the solar system on any
    given date, create an exponential equation which
    takes into consideration the total distance we have
    given for the sun's dead companion, the years the 12th
    Planet takes to make a complete ellipse (3,657), and
    the approximate May 15, 2003 date of the next passage.
    The distance will differ greatly, thus, depending upon
    the date.
         ZetaTalk™